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12 days
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Tim Bruening
2003-06-27 21:07:41 UTC
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12 years ago was the first Bush war against Iraq and the fall of the
USSR. 12 squared years ago was the attempt by Abolitionist John Brown
to incite a slave revolt.
cr88192
2003-06-28 00:41:12 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
12 years ago was the first Bush war against Iraq and the fall of the
USSR. 12 squared years ago was the attempt by Abolitionist John Brown
to incite a slave revolt.
1 day left.
today is 06/27. tommorow is 06/28, the 1 year mark...
Tim Bruening
2003-06-28 00:57:46 UTC
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Post by cr88192
Post by Tim Bruening
12 years ago was the first Bush war against Iraq and the fall of the
USSR. 12 squared years ago was the attempt by Abolitionist John Brown
to incite a slave revolt.
1 day left.
today is 06/27. tommorow is 06/28, the 1 year mark...
One month left to the 1st cat deathaversary of Molly.
cr88192
2003-06-28 03:07:35 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by cr88192
Post by Tim Bruening
12 years ago was the first Bush war against Iraq and the fall of the
USSR. 12 squared years ago was the attempt by Abolitionist John Brown
to incite a slave revolt.
1 day left.
today is 06/27. tommorow is 06/28, the 1 year mark...
One month left to the 1st cat deathaversary of Molly.
ok.
NatureloverChris
2003-06-28 08:18:05 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
One month left to the 1st cat deathaversary of Molly.
You can call it a yarzheit. That is the anniversary of a death. It is hebrew.

Chris
Tim Bruening
2003-06-28 05:26:02 UTC
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12 days from now: July 9.

12 squared days from now: December 18.

12 days ago: June 15.

12 squared days ago: February 3.
cr88192
2003-06-28 06:30:51 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
12 days from now: July 9.
12 squared days from now: December 18.
12 days ago: June 15.
12 squared days ago: February 3.
to me these dates are not signifigant...
Tim Bruening
2003-06-28 20:55:37 UTC
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Its now been 12 months since cr88192's girlfriend left him.:( I offer
him my condolences.
cr88192
2003-06-29 07:24:16 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Its now been 12 months since cr88192's girlfriend left him.:( I offer
him my condolences.
today was one year, tomorrow will be one day over one year...
there was no call, this reduces stress a little...
NatureloverChris
2003-06-29 04:22:43 UTC
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Post by NatureloverChris
You can call it a yarzheit. That is the anniversary of a death. It is
hebrew.
You sure its Hebrew? I'd wonder if it isn't actually Yiddish, since it
seems cognate with German "Jahreszeit" (= season -- "Jahr" = year +
"zeit" = time).
As soon as I pushed send, I thought "wait, I think that's yiddish"
The shifts in meaning in Yiddish terms derived from German terms can
often be interesting, e.g. "Schmuck" in German is "jewelry," in Yiddish
it is "family jewels."
I didn't know that. Schmuck is used a lot in American culture now, and most
people don't realize how offensive the term is considered to be by Jews.

Chris
w Alan
2003-06-29 04:31:50 UTC
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Post by NatureloverChris
I didn't know that. Schmuck is used a lot in American culture now,
and most people don't realize how offensive the term is considered to
be by Jews.
I've been lectured a few times on just that topic. :)

As far as I'm concerned, the word now has an English meaning no more
constrained by its Yiddish source than the Yiddish meaning is by the
German.

Not allowing the meaning of words to evolve would really suck. ;)



wA
NatureloverChris
2003-06-29 04:59:15 UTC
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Post by w Alan
Post by NatureloverChris
I didn't know that. Schmuck is used a lot in American culture now,
and most people don't realize how offensive the term is considered to
be by Jews.
I've been lectured a few times on just that topic. :)
naughty boy.
Post by w Alan
As far as I'm concerned, the word now has an English meaning no more
constrained by its Yiddish source than the Yiddish meaning is by the
German.
I had a very fierce arguement about this with my mother. Of course I was an
annoying teen at the time and probably didn't express it as well. I don't use
the word much, so I guess she influenced me after all.
Post by w Alan
Not allowing the meaning of words to evolve would really suck. ;)
totally :) But I just don't have it in me to offend little old jewish ladies.

Chris
Terry Jones
2003-06-29 09:07:36 UTC
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Post by w Alan
Not allowing the meaning of words to evolve would really suck. ;)
Not sure about that - If the thing / concept to which the word applies
is obsolete, then it may be OK to "recycle" it. And new things need
new words.

But using the *same* word to mean different things (at the same time
and within the same language) simply leads to misunderstanding.

(Although I agree that loan words are not necessarily constrained by
their source language once they've been "adopted".)

On the whole, I think that "private languages" are bad *socially* -
For example "teenspeak" leads to adults thinking that the teens are
stupid because they can't speak proper English, and lets the teens
regard the adults as ignorant (in *general*) just because they don't
know "teenspeak".

With the exception of specialised / technical language, the use of "in
group" language seems to be associated with groups regarding
themselves as "special" (in ways *other* than those based on any real
differences) - And often regarding "outsiders" as in some ways
inferior.

Terry
cr88192
2003-06-30 03:46:09 UTC
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Post by Terry Jones
With the exception of specialised / technical language, the use of "in
group" language seems to be associated with groups regarding
themselves as "special" (in ways *other* than those based on any real
differences) - And often regarding "outsiders" as in some ways
inferior.
4h but u r, unl33t n3wb13...
1m ub3rl33t h4x0r w1th sk1lz f4r s3rp4ss1ng 4nyth1ng u c0uld h4ve...

not seriously...
Terry Jones
2003-06-30 09:03:31 UTC
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Post by cr88192
4h but u r, unl33t n3wb13...
1m ub3rl33t h4x0r w1th sk1lz f4r s3rp4ss1ng 4nyth1ng u c0uld h4ve...
not seriously...
2Ys UR, YYs UB, IC UR 2Ys 4 me

Terry

(And from force of habit, I started running the spell checker :)
cr88192
2003-07-01 14:30:24 UTC
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Post by Terry Jones
Post by cr88192
4h but u r, unl33t n3wb13...
1m ub3rl33t h4x0r w1th sk1lz f4r s3rp4ss1ng 4nyth1ng u c0uld h4ve...
not seriously...
2Ys UR, YYs UB, IC UR 2Ys 4 me
ok. not understood though.

the one I was using mostly consisted of letter subtraction and
contraction...
Terry Jones
2003-07-01 18:06:13 UTC
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Post by cr88192
Post by Terry Jones
2Ys UR, YYs UB, IC UR 2Ys 4 me
ok. not understood though.
It's not original - quite an old one here in the UK - basicaly
arithmetic phonetic:

"Too wise you are, too wise you be, I see you are too wise for me."

Terry
cr88192
2003-07-02 05:35:13 UTC
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Post by Terry Jones
Post by cr88192
Post by Terry Jones
2Ys UR, YYs UB, IC UR 2Ys 4 me
ok. not understood though.
It's not original - quite an old one here in the UK - basicaly
"Too wise you are, too wise you be, I see you are too wise for me."
understood. I had not seen this type before.

at first I was trying to decode it relative to the source but didn't see
recognizable patterns, so I didn't know...
Tim Bruening
2003-07-15 00:19:52 UTC
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12 days from now is the 50th anniversary of the start of the Cuban
Revolution, IIRC.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-15 23:59:23 UTC
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12 days from now is the 1st anniversary of the death of my cat Molly.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-17 02:34:01 UTC
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12 days ago was the 4th of July.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 05:01:41 UTC
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Its been 12 months since my cat Molly was run over by a car.
Tom Moore
2003-07-28 06:13:55 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Its been 12 months since my cat
Molly was run over by a car.
It's been two days since a bus tried to run over Ian Molton, got fright,
and drove off in other direction.
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Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 07:13:10 UTC
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Just 12 days left to the deadline for filing to run for CA Governor in the
recall race.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 07:19:08 UTC
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12 days ago was the anniversary of the first nuclear weapons test.

Trinity: Tea that makes you three.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-01 01:39:32 UTC
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Its been 12 years and 12 days since the Soviet Coup.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-02 06:56:52 UTC
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In 12 days, my Mom and Ernie fly to Hawaii!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-06 22:08:11 UTC
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My Mom and Stepdad's Anniversary is just 12 days away!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-07 23:56:52 UTC
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12 days ago was the anniversary of Women's Suffrage Day in the U.S.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-09 02:52:25 UTC
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Happy birthday to Lawrence Foard in 12 days!:)
Tim Bruening
2003-09-19 08:45:03 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Happy birthday to Lawrence Foard in 12 days!:)
Happy birthday to Lawrence tomorrow!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-20 09:21:14 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by Tim Bruening
Happy birthday to Lawrence Foard in 12 days!:)
Happy birthday to Lawrence tomorrow!
Happy B-Day to Lawrence today!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-21 23:31:50 UTC
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Today is 12 days since California Admission Day.
Tom Moore
2003-09-30 03:05:28 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Today is 12 days since California Admission Day.
Only two days until 2 October 2003.
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Tim Bruening
2003-10-06 01:06:32 UTC
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Its been 12 days since Fall started in the Northern Hemisphere.
Ian Molton
2003-10-06 02:20:13 UTC
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:06:32 -0700
Post by Tim Bruening
Its been 12 days since Fall started in the Northern Hemisphere.
*cough* since it started in North America.

Over here, we're enjoying a nice Autumn.
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Gareeth
2003-10-06 02:59:03 UTC
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Post by Ian Molton
Post by Tim Bruening
Its been 12 days since Fall started in the Northern Hemisphere.
*cough* since it started in North America.
Over here, we're enjoying a nice Autumn.
Actually Canadians are indecisive so we are having a fall or an autumn
depending on who you talk to.

Gareeth
Ian Molton
2003-10-06 03:04:47 UTC
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 19:59:03 -0700
Post by Gareeth
Actually Canadians are indecisive so we are having a fall or an autumn
depending on who you talk to.
Autumns are better. They dont hurt as much ;-)
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Tim Bruening
2003-10-07 08:34:47 UTC
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IIRC, 12 days from today is the anniversary of the World Series earthquake
of 1989.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-10 02:25:41 UTC
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Its been 12 days since my 1.5 parents returned from Hawaii.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-13 00:34:24 UTC
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Its 12 days into FY 2004, and Congress hasn't finished passing the
Federal budget for 2004.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-13 03:10:24 UTC
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12 days to United Nations Day.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-14 07:14:39 UTC
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12 days since German Reunification Day, and the anniversary of the
Peanuts comic strip, one of my favorites of all time.
Jane
2003-10-14 15:59:42 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Peanuts comic strip, one of my favorites of all time.
Maybe you will find it interesting, that the Danish name
of Peanuts (the comic strip) is Radiserne.

http://www.liberherbarum.com/pn0120.HTM
http://www.seniorinternet.dk/senior32.htm
http://www.peanuts.com/comics/peanuts/archive/foreign_language.html

Jane
Tim Bruening
2003-10-15 23:50:04 UTC
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12 days since German Reunification Day.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-18 18:17:12 UTC
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12 days since Yom Kippur.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-20 06:45:11 UTC
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12 days since the election of Arnold Schwarzenegger as Governor of CA.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-20 07:26:18 UTC
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12 days to All Souls Day.
Tom Moore
2003-10-20 10:35:15 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
12 days to All Souls Day.
You really should not be repeating this so many times, let alone cross
posting.
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Tim Bruening
2003-10-21 07:08:53 UTC
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12 Days to the Day of the Dead.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-23 05:33:51 UTC
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12 days since Double Ten.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-25 02:51:08 UTC
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12 days since Columbus Day.
Tom Moore
2003-10-20 10:35:27 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
12 days since the election of Arnold
Schwarzenegger as Governor of CA.
Forty-eight hours since the day before yesterday.
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Tim Bruening
2003-10-20 06:45:25 UTC
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12 days to Halloween.
Tom Moore
2003-10-20 10:35:09 UTC
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12 days to Halloween.
More abuse?
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Tim Bruening
2003-10-25 07:26:12 UTC
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12 days since Fake Columbus Day.
Tim Bruening
2003-11-04 01:41:18 UTC
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12 days to the certification of the California Recall election.
Tim Bruening
2003-11-07 08:02:00 UTC
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12 days since the end of Daylight Savings Time and the start of Ramadan.
Tim Bruening
2003-10-14 07:15:12 UTC
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12 days to the end of Daylight Savings in the U.S.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-24 03:58:05 UTC
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12 days since 9/11.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-25 02:42:05 UTC
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12 days to Yom Kippur.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-26 03:14:46 UTC
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My Mom and Ernie have been in Hawaii for 12 days, and will return
Saturday night.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-26 04:51:12 UTC
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The California recall election is just 12 days away!
Tim Bruening
2003-10-01 09:50:17 UTC
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12 days to the official celebration of Columbus Day in the U.S.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-11 14:10:24 UTC
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Just 12 days left until summer ends in the Northern Hemisphere!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-13 00:04:43 UTC
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Happy 12th day of September, a much happier day than September 11.
Mike Stanton
2003-09-15 17:50:30 UTC
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:43:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
In just 12 days, I will turn 37.
Does that mean you be 73?
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Mike :-)
Tim Bruening
2003-09-15 21:25:10 UTC
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Post by Mike Stanton
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:43:29 -0700, Tim Bruening
In just 12 days, I will turn 37.
Does that mean you be 73?
No, 37.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 05:03:05 UTC
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12 days from today is the 29th anniversary of Nixon announcing his
resignation over Watergate.

Resignation: A country that quits. (Many Americans would apply this
term to France!).
Tom Moore
2003-07-28 06:14:02 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Resignation: A country that quits. (Many
Americans would apply this term to France!).
Not Italy?

On which side was Italy during WWI and WWII?

The one that was winning at the time.
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Tim Bruening
2003-07-17 03:50:37 UTC
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The first nuclear weapons test was 58 years ago today.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 05:05:07 UTC
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Today is the 50th anniversary of the truce in the Korean War. Sadly and
scarily, there is still no peace treaty, and there is increasing danger
of nuclear war.
Mschlnbrg
2003-07-28 19:32:22 UTC
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Sorry to hear that, am sure she was a good cat
She purred a lot.
Sounds like a good cat to me...
Tim Bruening
2003-07-28 23:42:32 UTC
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Post by Mschlnbrg
Sorry to hear that, am sure she was a good cat
She purred a lot.
Sounds like a good cat to me...
Meow!
Tim Bruening
2003-07-31 23:41:59 UTC
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Post by Mschlnbrg
Sorry to hear that, am sure she was a good cat
She purred a lot.
Sounds like a good cat to me...
Meow!
Woof!
Tim Bruening
2003-08-03 21:53:06 UTC
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12 days to the anniversary of Indian Independence.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-11 22:58:15 UTC
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12 days from now is the 12th anniversary of the failure of the Soviet
Coup.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-02 07:07:17 UTC
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I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty, with
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't see
straight. The same thing sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you have
problems with laziness?
Alice
2003-09-02 08:03:53 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room
get dirty, with newspapers piled on my floor. This makes
Ernie so mad that he can't see straight. The same thing
sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you have problems
with laziness?
I have no problems with laziness. If I'm being lazy, I can
admit it (as in, "I'm driving to the store because I'm too
lazy to walk there today"). I do have awful problems with
inertia though, which I consider to be quite a different matter.

-alice
Tim Bruening
2003-09-03 00:06:58 UTC
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Post by Alice
Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room
get dirty, with newspapers piled on my floor. This makes
Ernie so mad that he can't see straight. The same thing
sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you have problems
with laziness?
I have no problems with laziness. If I'm being lazy, I can
admit it (as in, "I'm driving to the store because I'm too
lazy to walk there today"). I do have awful problems with
inertia though, which I consider to be quite a different matter.
What's the difference?
Alice
2003-09-03 08:27:08 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by Alice
I have no problems with laziness. If I'm being lazy, I
can admit it (as in, "I'm driving to the store because
I'm too lazy to walk there today"). I do have awful
problems with inertia though, which I consider to be
quite a different matter.
What's the difference?
Trying to be as brief as possible, I think of laziness as
not doing something "because I don't feel like it". In other
words, I can do it, and if I must, I will. But if I can get
away with not doing it, I won't.

Inertia, on the other hand, is not being able to *make*
myself do something, even though I really do want to do it.
Not a great description, but maybe this article will help
more: http://www.autistics.org/library/inertia.html

-alice
HGJ
2003-09-17 00:05:08 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty, with
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't see
straight. The same thing sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you have
problems with laziness?
Why does Ernie care how your room looks? He's not the one using the
room, is he?

I often have problems with keeping my home tidy. I'm not sure how much
of that is due to laziness. I think it would be easier for me to keep
my belongings in order if I had a bigger home.
Kerry
2003-09-17 00:45:43 UTC
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I have always had problems keeping my house in any kind of order. In
fact at the moment it is quite horrible. I have a hard time putting
things back together again, but I do it, especially when I am expecting
company...visitor tidy, you know.

Kerry
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty, with
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't see
straight. The same thing sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you have
problems with laziness?
Why does Ernie care how your room looks? He's not the one using the
room, is he?
I often have problems with keeping my home tidy. I'm not sure how much
of that is due to laziness. I think it would be easier for me to keep
my belongings in order if I had a bigger home.
Catriona R
2003-09-19 21:28:20 UTC
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Post by Kerry
I have always had problems keeping my house in any kind of order. In
fact at the moment it is quite horrible. I have a hard time putting
things back together again, but I do it, especially when I am expecting
company...visitor tidy, you know.
I know that one well - there's no space to be tidy in this flat anyway
(I try, but when there's nowhere to put anything, it's not easy), so I
just let it get messy and pick stuff up when there's no room for me
and Mike to move any more ;-) We only really tidy up when we're having
a visitor, though... like on Sunday we're meeting a friend from
Austria who's in Scotland on holiday, so we need to tidy up a bit (a
lot ;-)) Oh, and as we're going on holiday on the same day, we also
have to pack... and Mike's got a bad cold, which I feel like I'm
beginning to get too... joy! ;-)
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Red Polekatt Entity
2003-09-23 05:29:58 UTC
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My parents are always on my back about keeping my room in some kind of
organized upkeep. But no matter how much I try at it, it always seems to
settle back into a state of messiness again... I've actually come up with a
theory of a sort: the minds of NTs typically process concepts by taking all
of the bits of information and assembling them into a whole form, whereas it
is the opposite with autistic minds such as mine (we tend to take concepts
and break them down into parts). According to the theory, the same is true
for organization. We (autistics) don't seem to be inclined to re-assemble
things when they are already subdivided, mentally or physically. Cleaning up
and reorganizing can be seen as doing just that, and since we enjoy
dissassembling ideas into seperate parts, this could also be what causes our
living spaces to become messy again so quickly. I can identify with having
organizational difficulties, but at the same time I actually think a lot of
my stuff is easier to find when it is in disarray... Just a theory

Devin Garland
Post by Kerry
I have always had problems keeping my house in any kind of order. In
fact at the moment it is quite horrible. I have a hard time putting
things back together again, but I do it, especially when I am expecting
company...visitor tidy, you know.
Kerry
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty,
with
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't
see
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
straight. The same thing sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you
have
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
problems with laziness?
Why does Ernie care how your room looks? He's not the one using the
room, is he?
I often have problems with keeping my home tidy. I'm not sure how much
of that is due to laziness. I think it would be easier for me to keep
my belongings in order if I had a bigger home.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-23 05:40:03 UTC
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Post by Red Polekatt Entity
My parents are always on my back about keeping my room in some kind of
organized upkeep. But no matter how much I try at it, it always seems to
settle back into a state of messiness again... I've actually come up with a
theory of a sort: the minds of NTs typically process concepts by taking all
of the bits of information and assembling them into a whole form, whereas it
is the opposite with autistic minds such as mine (we tend to take concepts
and break them down into parts). According to the theory, the same is true
for organization. We (autistics) don't seem to be inclined to re-assemble
things when they are already subdivided, mentally or physically. Cleaning up
and reorganizing can be seen as doing just that, and since we enjoy
dissassembling ideas into seperate parts, this could also be what causes our
living spaces to become messy again so quickly. I can identify with having
organizational difficulties, but at the same time I actually think a lot of
my stuff is easier to find when it is in disarray... Just a theory
Hire a maid?
Janna Hoskin
2003-09-23 06:09:40 UTC
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Post by Red Polekatt Entity
Devin Garland
Post by Kerry
I have always had problems keeping my house in any kind of order. In
fact at the moment it is quite horrible. I have a hard time putting
things back together again, but I do it, especially when I am expecting
company...visitor tidy, you know.
Kerry
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty,
with
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't
see
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
straight. The same thing sometimes happens in the kitchen. Do you
have
Post by HGJ
Post by Tim Bruening
problems with laziness?
Why does Ernie care how your room looks? He's not the one using the
room, is he?
I often have problems with keeping my home tidy. I'm not sure how much
of that is due to laziness. I think it would be easier for me to keep
my belongings in order if I had a bigger home.
My parents are always on my back about keeping my room in some kind of
organized upkeep. But no matter how much I try at it, it always seems to
settle back into a state of messiness again... I've actually come up with a
theory of a sort: the minds of NTs typically process concepts by taking all
of the bits of information and assembling them into a whole form, whereas it
is the opposite with autistic minds such as mine (we tend to take concepts
and break them down into parts). According to the theory, the same is true
for organization. We (autistics) don't seem to be inclined to re-assemble
things when they are already subdivided, mentally or physically. Cleaning up
and reorganizing can be seen as doing just that, and since we enjoy
dissassembling ideas into seperate parts, this could also be what causes our
living spaces to become messy again so quickly. I can identify with having
organizational difficulties, but at the same time I actually think a lot of
my stuff is easier to find when it is in disarray... Just a theory
I have trouble keeping things tidy, too. I love organizing things, but
the thing is that I tend to want to organize as I clean, which means
that it all gets messier before it gets clean... and I also tend to stop
after a bit, which means nothing is ever totally sorted out.

I used to think that if I just had enough storage containers, life would
be easier, but no.

I think sometimes that if I would just put things where they belong when
I'm done with them, that would work, but it doesn't because I keep them
out if I expect to use them again soon. (And then I don't and it all
just sits there until I get around to doing something with it.)

My whole family is like this, except the oldest of my brothers, who is a
neat-freak and infinitely more organized than any of us. We're *all*
packrats, though (Mom less so than the rest of us), which of course
makes organization and tidiness more difficult...

I think it's probably a combination of EF problems, laziness,
disorganization, hyperorganization, and lack of storage space - at least
with me.

-Janna
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womby
2003-09-23 21:13:17 UTC
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Post by Red Polekatt Entity
Devin Garland
Post by Kerry
I have always had problems keeping my house in any kind of order. In
fact at the moment it is quite horrible. I have a hard time putting
things back together again, but I do it, especially when I am expecting
company...visitor tidy, you know.
Kerry
Post by Tim Bruening
I have trouble with laziness. I sometimes let my room get dirty,
with
Post by Tim Bruening
newspapers piled on my floor. This makes Ernie so mad that he can't
see
Post by Tim Bruening
straight. The same
< automated clippage >

Laziness is defined by the critic, not by the criticized. So lazineds
really has no useful diagnostic value.

I don't understand why personal spaces have to be organized to match
societal values.

I do believe each individual is responsible for keeping their actions
from inconveniancing others in public spaces. Thus, any activity in a
public space should include the removal of the disorder the action
created. Otherwise, have enough forsight to be so lazy (inert) that
the action isn't even started.

Also, have the same tolerance for others disorganization as you hav
for your own.

In summary, Tim, don't leave the kitchen a mess. It usually screws up
someone elses day (intentional or not).

Hmm... I think I need to go cool off now.
Tim Bruening
2003-07-31 23:42:27 UTC
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12 days ago was the anniversary of the Nicaraguan Revolution.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-20 07:51:56 UTC
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12 days from today is Labor Day.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-01 07:36:20 UTC
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12 days ago was the anniversary of the first manned lunar landing.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-15 01:14:37 UTC
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Today is the 58th anniversary of the surrender of Japan.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-15 01:27:38 UTC
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Today is the 30th anniversary of the end of U.S. military involvement in
Vietnam and neighboring nations. On that day, the U.S. stopped bombing
Laos.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-16 01:40:51 UTC
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Today is the 56th birthdays of India and Pakistan.
Tim Bruening
2003-08-16 01:41:22 UTC
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Today is the 89th anniversary of the opening of the Panama Canal.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-22 01:46:12 UTC
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Happy International Peace Day, a day to celebrate efforts to achieve
international peace.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-09 05:53:45 UTC
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:27:36 -0700, Tim Bruening
12 days from today is Bill of Rights Day.
So what do you think of the proposed changes to the citizenship oath
scheduled to take effect that day?
http://www.nationalreview.com/miller/miller090503.asp
The core issue seems to be whether the new citizen makes an unlimited
committment to defend his country, or makes a committment that is
effective only after every legal dodge has been exhausted.
Below is the proposed new oath:

Solemnly, freely, and without mental reservation, I hereby renounce
under oath all allegiance to any foreign state. My fidelity and
allegiance from this day forward is to the United States of America.
I pledge to support, honor, and be loyal to the United States, its
Constitution, and its laws. Where and if lawfully required, I further
commit myself to defend the Constitution and laws of the United States
against all enemies, foreign and domestic, either by military,
noncombatant, or civilian service. This I do solemnly swear, so help
me God.

Some people are concerned about the clause at the start of the fourth
sentence: "Where and if lawfully required." They believe that those
words could be interpreted to mean that people working for the
government aren't always legally bound to defend the Constitution and
U.S. laws. Perhaps the Bush Administration is trying to create an
exemption from defending the Constitution and U.S. laws for itself!
After all, it has already demonstrated a willingness to play fast and
loose with the Constitution (i.e. the PATRIOT Act). If immigrants
working for the government aren't required to defend the Constitution,
than natives working for the goverment (such as President Bush and

Attorney General Ashcroft) aren't required to defend it either, and
are free to disregard it in pursuit of national security or profits
for their friends in the corporate world.
Tim Bruening
2003-09-19 08:44:11 UTC
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Congress has just 12 days left to pass a budget before Fiscal Year 2004 begins. Why does the
fiscal year begin 3 months before the calendar year?
Tim Bruening
2003-09-20 04:35:05 UTC
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In just 12 days, the 3rd Angel (a TV series about a vampire who has a soul and fights evil as a
PI) season will begin! I'm beside myself with excitment!
Tim Bruening
2003-09-20 06:49:21 UTC
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In just 12 days, the 3rd Angel (a TV series about a vampire who has a soul and fights evil as a
PI) season will begin! I'm beside myself with excitment!
I think that the new Smallville season will start that day too.
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