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Awesome Article on the Autistic Experience
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Autindividual
2012-07-28 15:54:09 UTC
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If you only read one article about this subject, read This one!

http://blogs.plos.org/neurotribes/2011/03/29/loving-lampposts-a-
groundbreaking-documentary-about-autism-love-and-acceptance/

My favorite paragraph, which essentially reiterates what I've been saying
all along is:

They told us initially that Sam had “atypical autism,” which they later
amended to the diagnosis of PDD-NOS. We took that to mean, “Sam’s kind of
autistic, but kind of not, and who can say for sure? But he definitely
needs a diagnosis.” So we shortened that just to say “autism.”
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Who can say for sure? 'Kind' of autistic, 'kind' of not ;)

Atypical autism!!! I just LOVE it!!!
Got some of that m'self!!! ;)

So I don't have typical, or 'nt' autism ;) Mine is Unique, and so is yours,
and so is everyone else's

Maybe, just maybe, it just might be because in the final analysis, we're
ALL atypical after all, that is, we're Really all Unique Individuals - hey,
how 'bout that? What a revelation!

Now to get the Hammers and Chisels to get that message into the CEMENT
HEADS!

But See how easy it is to LABEL things, and then Amend them at will???

Sort of like what they do with weather forecasts ;)

Then they shortened it simply to "autism" - amazing! I did that right from
the beginning, first shot - but then, I'm not out to Manipulate anyone
either.

And What does AUT mean? Self.
And What does ISM mean? Being, or condition of being, or state of being.

So it all Ultimately comes down to SELF-BEING, or Being onesself - and it's
Ultimately That, which is being Targeted for being 'cured'. In other words,
it's yet another War against something , this one against
Individuality...to Enforce Conformity and Uniformity, to Control people
easier, with less likelihood for Dissent ala the concepts presented in
Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World".
d***@fsmail.net
2012-07-28 20:02:40 UTC
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Post by Autindividual
Atypical autism!!! I just LOVE it!!!
Got some of that m'self!!! ;)
So I don't have typical, or 'nt' autism ;) Mine is Unique, and so is yours,
and so is everyone else's
There is a lot of variety on the autistic spectrum, for reasons such as:

- different degrees of natural autism
- intelligence
- propensity to learn to compensate
- interests
- co-morbidities
- personality variations (e.g. like of socialising)
- upbringing
Post by Autindividual
Maybe, just maybe, it just might be because in the final analysis, we're
ALL atypical after all, that is, we're Really all Unique Individuals - hey,
how 'bout that? What a revelation!
Yes. However, I would say this. For the whole of my twenties I felt different and didn't know why. My inability to form friendships (let alone relationships) became increasingly hard to understand. In my very late twenties after researching (e.g. reading articles by people who are autistic) I felt for the first time ever that there were other people like me. Understanding this was extremely helpful to me and enabled me to move on and be more productive to society. Ten years late my views have refined a bit (there is a schizoid angle as well an autistic angle), but I don't think it's as simple as saying there is a spectrum for everything. For autism there is a spectrum, but most people have none or very little of it.
Post by Autindividual
But See how easy it is to LABEL things, and then Amend them at will???
Sort of like what they do with weather forecasts ;)
For me it has always been a secret label. I have been comfortable to label myself from time to time, but have only told two people in the world that I am autistic. I have lost contact with them both (although it is conceivable that one of them might one day read this post). If anyone else in real life hinted at it I would deny it or rapidly change the subject. It is not so much that I am ashamed by it, but I don't want to be labelled.

Dolphinius
(Male, age 40 +/- a few months, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
Autindividual
2012-07-28 22:34:43 UTC
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Post by d***@fsmail.net
- different degrees of natural autism
- intelligence
- propensity to learn to compensate
- interests
- co-morbidities
- personality variations (e.g. like of socialising)
- upbringing
And it's all those, and so many more factors, that influence everyone,
contributing to their behavior, whether autistic or not.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
Yes. However, I would say this. For the whole of my twenties I felt
different and didn't know why. My inability to form friendships (let
alone relationships) became increasingly hard to understand.
I'm not quite sure I understand what it is to be unable to form
friendships/relationships - although I'm very familiar with what it is to
not be inclined or otherwise interested in doing so simply because I
don't perceive sufficient Quality in the people that would be involved.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
In my
very late twenties after researching (e.g. reading articles by people
who are autistic) I felt for the first time ever that there were other
people like me.
;) If by that you mean that there others in a similar situation, I
understand, but there's No one else like you, or anyone else - we're all
Unique One-of-a-kind Individuals...and that should be the focus of
consideration and respect, it is for yours truly at all times.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
Understanding this was extremely helpful to me and
enabled me to move on and be more productive to society.
So now it's society's turn to reciprocate and be more productive to you
;)
Post by d***@fsmail.net
Ten years
late my views have refined a bit (there is a schizoid angle as well an
autistic angle), but I don't think it's as simple as saying there is a
spectrum for everything. For autism there is a spectrum, but most
people have none or very little of it.
The person who coined the 'autism' term also coined the 'schizophrenia'
term as well, and related both of them together, a Swiss shrink by the
name of Paul Eugen Bleuler.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
For me it has always been a secret label. I have been comfortable to
label myself from time to time, but have only told two people in the
world that I am autistic.
I never tell others that I'm autistic, I Show them - that is, I'm a very
soul-manifesting aka psychedelic person, so I don't hide anything - they
get to see how I am, being myself, without any labels - some can dig it,
and some can't, or won't.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
I have lost contact with them both (although
it is conceivable that one of them might one day read this post). If
anyone else in real life hinted at it I would deny it or rapidly
change the subject. It is not so much that I am ashamed by it, but I
don't want to be labelled.
Dolphinius
(Male, age 40 +/- a few months, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
I don't blame you, I thoroughly Detest labels, and Why? Because they're
insufficient and therefore part of Depersonalization, which I Despise
more than anything.
d***@fsmail.net
2012-07-28 23:22:23 UTC
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Post by d***@fsmail.net
Yes. However, I would say this. For the whole of my twenties I felt
different and didn't know why. My inability to form friendships (let
alone relationships) became increasingly hard to understand.
I'm not quite sure I understand what it is to be unable to form
friendships/relationships - although I'm very familiar with what it is to
not be inclined or otherwise interested in doing so simply because I
don't perceive sufficient Quality in the people that would be involved.
For me not being inclined to is most of it. I can "fake" friendships to an extent, but I don't get anything out of most of them. Even people I like, I want to see very little. I prefer just knowing lots of people who I can have short conversations with them every few months when I bump into them in the street. I don't want to visit people or have people visit me.
Post by Autindividual
Post by d***@fsmail.net
In my
very late twenties after researching (e.g. reading articles by people
who are autistic) I felt for the first time ever that there were other
people like me.
;) If by that you mean that there others in a similar situation, I
understand, but there's No one else like you, or anyone else - we're all
Unique One-of-a-kind Individuals...and that should be the focus of
consideration and respect, it is for yours truly at all times.
By "[who are] like me" I meant "[who] think similarly to me".
Post by Autindividual
Post by d***@fsmail.net
Ten years
late my views have refined a bit (there is a schizoid angle as well an
autistic angle), but I don't think it's as simple as saying there is a
spectrum for everything. For autism there is a spectrum, but most
people have none or very little of it.
The person who coined the 'autism' term also coined the 'schizophrenia'
term as well, and related both of them together, a Swiss shrink by the
name of Paul Eugen Bleuler.
I don't think I am at all schizophrenic. My understanding of schizoid is that it is different to schizophrenic.

Dolphinius
(Male, age 40 +/- a few months, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
Autindividual
2012-07-29 01:18:00 UTC
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Post by d***@fsmail.net
For me not being inclined to is most of it. I can "fake" friendships
to an extent, but I don't get anything out of most of them. Even
people I like, I want to see very little.
I'm a very intense and serious person - no, not grim serious, but
dedicated serious, which means that for me to actually want to be with
someone, they have to be seriously 'on the same page', otherwise, I'll
tend to keep a certain distance. It's not that I can't make
friends/relationships, that's easy, but adding the Quality factor is a
totally different situation, but the only situation I'm truly interested
in.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
I prefer just knowing lots
of people who I can have short conversations with them every few
months when I bump into them in the street. I don't want to visit
people or have people visit me.
Same here, unless they're very special in the area of profound rapport.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
By "[who are] like me" I meant "[who] think similarly to me".
Definitely, being 'on the same page' is a most critical factor for me as
I also tend to be a very intimate person too.
Post by d***@fsmail.net
I don't think I am at all schizophrenic. My understanding of schizoid
is that it is different to schizophrenic.
Dolphinius
(Male, age 40 +/- a few months, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
I was referring to Bleuler coining the terms and then labaling with them.
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