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Weed and autism?
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Chak
2012-09-25 18:53:42 UTC
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Hey, guys,

This study

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php

seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X syndrome. Has
anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones, I mean.

Chak
--
I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to
seriously re-evaluate your life.
--Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
Autindividual
2012-09-25 23:36:07 UTC
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Many of us are already naturally psychedelic, I sure am ;)
Enhancing that can only make things that much better ;)
Chak
2012-09-30 04:31:01 UTC
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Post by Autindividual
Many of us are already naturally psychedelic, I sure am ;)
Enhancing that can only make things that much better ;)
Clearly. :-)

Chak
--
I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to
seriously re-evaluate your life.
--Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
man behind the curtain
2012-10-04 14:19:12 UTC
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Post by Chak
Post by Autindividual
Many of us are already naturally psychedelic, I sure am ;)
Enhancing that can only make things that much better ;)
Clearly. :-)
Chak
One thing seems to be clear. Pot should be legal. Prohibition didn't
work too well for alcohol either.
Legalization would be an opportunity to do some real research.
And fewer police would be corrupted. And they could fight real crime.
--
Karma ; what a concept!
Chak
2012-10-05 02:20:48 UTC
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Post by man behind the curtain
One thing seems to be clear. Pot should be legal. Prohibition didn't
work too well for alcohol either.
Legalization would be an opportunity to do some real research.
And fewer police would be corrupted. And they could fight real crime.
Agreed, to all. And we wouldn't have to build so damn many prisons,
either.

Chak
--
I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to
seriously re-evaluate your life.
--Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
Autindividual
2012-10-05 10:19:18 UTC
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Legalization is not what it seems to so many. In Reality, legalization
means so much more Control, only of a different kind. It means placing
your Freedom under the Corruption of a Failed 'legal' system and having
it Shamelessly Exploited, for what else, money, Filthy Lucre. It means
Paying 'protection' and other forms of Graft to Thugs in order to
'freely' Exercise your Creator-Endowed Unalienable Rights, which is
really Infringement of those Rights.

Rather, DeCriminalization is the proper way to go - and by that I mean
GETTING RID OF THE CRIMINALS who Violate our Rights - because at least in
the USA, the Right to self-medication is Fully Protected by our
Constitution, to wit:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

That's our Constitution's Bill Of Rights Article of Amendment number 9,
number 9, number 9, number 9... ;)

AND IT'S THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND!!!

Violating it is Criminal, in Fact, a Serious Felony - and Criminals
Masquerading as our so-called public 'servant' do it constantly! Get rid
of them, AND THEIR STUPID SUPPORTERS, and we can have our FREEDOM back!!!

I've even written several songs about it on my album, one of which is
called "Taking It Back", which is Precisely what we need to do!

Phil W Lee
2012-09-25 23:52:40 UTC
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Post by Chak
Hey, guys,
This study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php
seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X syndrome. Has
anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones, I mean.
Chak
How would I know what "the usual ones" are? :)

I do know that /mild/ doses seem to improve my ability to socialise,
but given that that is an uncontrolled sample of one, and with no
attempt to manage confounding factors*, it really doesn't mean a whole
lot.
I have no idea at all if, or to what extent, that may differ from the
neurotypicals though.

*one that occurs to me is that people who use weed together must
necessarily have some level of trust in each other - this may be all
that is needed to improve socialising ability amongst them.
--
We are the dyslexic of Borg, Your ass will be laminated.
Chak
2012-09-30 04:30:37 UTC
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Post by Phil W Lee
Post by Chak
Hey, guys,
This study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php
seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X syndrome.
Has anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones,
I mean.
Chak
How would I know what "the usual ones" are? :)
I do know that /mild/ doses seem to improve my ability to socialise,
but given that that is an uncontrolled sample of one, and with no
attempt to manage confounding factors*, it really doesn't mean a whole
lot.
I have no idea at all if, or to what extent, that may differ from the
neurotypicals though.
*one that occurs to me is that people who use weed together must
necessarily have some level of trust in each other - this may be all
that is needed to improve socialising ability amongst them.
Is it sufficient to improve socializing ability for you?
--
I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to
seriously re-evaluate your life.
--Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
Phil W Lee
2012-09-30 16:10:30 UTC
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Post by Chak
Post by Phil W Lee
Post by Chak
Hey, guys,
This study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php
seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X syndrome.
Has anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones,
I mean.
Chak
How would I know what "the usual ones" are? :)
I do know that /mild/ doses seem to improve my ability to socialise,
but given that that is an uncontrolled sample of one, and with no
attempt to manage confounding factors*, it really doesn't mean a whole
lot.
I have no idea at all if, or to what extent, that may differ from the
neurotypicals though.
*one that occurs to me is that people who use weed together must
necessarily have some level of trust in each other - this may be all
that is needed to improve socialising ability amongst them.
Is it sufficient to improve socializing ability for you?
It has been known to, on occasion.
The varieties that are commonly available these days are far too
strong though.
I guess we can thank criminalisation for that - stronger varieties can
provide a grater quantity of drug is a smaller package, so more easily
concealed or transported.
--
There are 10 types of people in the world -
those who understand binary
and those who don't!
Buzzard
2012-10-01 06:38:01 UTC
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Post by Chak
Hey, guys,
This study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php
seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X syndrome. Has
anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones, I mean.
I don't have fragile-x (that article mentioned the physical
charisteristics associated with that), and it has been decades
since I smoked any, But I do remember it having ...some...
effect on social behaviour. Not much, though.
Legal Alien
2012-10-01 08:07:53 UTC
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Post by Buzzard
Post by Chak
Hey, guys,
This study
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/uoc--bnm092012.php
seems to imply that a component of pot helps treat fragile-X
syndrome. Has
anybody here ever noticed a benefit? Other than the usual ones, I mean.
I don't have fragile-x (that article mentioned the physical
charisteristics associated with that), and it has been decades
since I smoked any, But I do remember it having ...some...
effect on social behaviour. Not much, though.
Alcohol does have some effect on social behavior ;-)

Research suggests that individuals with autism and fragile X syndrome
have abnormalities in synaptic transmission through the _GABA-B receptor_.
STX209 may serve to restore the normal balance at the synapse and
correct abnormalities associated with these disorders.

Other GABA-B Agonists: baclofen, GBL, propofol, GHB, phenibut.

GABA-A Agonists: alcohol barbiturates, benzodiazepines, carisoprodol,
chloral hydrate, etomidate, glutethimide, L-theanine, kava,
methaqualone, muscimol, neuroactive steroids, z-drugs, propofol,
scullcap, valerian, volatile/inhaled anaesthetics.

Cheers , Legal
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