Did Adam the Conn. shooter suffer from Autism?

[the man]

Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

[Autindividual]

Post by the man
Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

I think it's a lot worse than that. I suspect that sending in these
KillBots, deranged mental patients practically programmed to commit
horrendous acts of extreme violence, to provide a lame excuse for Further
Violating our Constitution and its Bill Of Rights, are the same
characters who are also into Forcing Conformity upon us in other forms,
and could very well be, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they
are, also using this as a Ploy to 'classify' autism as being potentially
harmful to others using such an instance of extreme violence as yet
another lame excuse, to Mandate 'treatment' of autistic
individuals...effectively persecuting those who are simply different, not
like the rest of the Herd, by type-casting them as potential mass
murderers...it's been done throughout history before.

[Buzzard]

(snip) a Ploy to 'classify' autism as being potentially
harmful to others using such an instance of extreme violence as yet
another lame excuse, to Mandate 'treatment' of autistic
individuals...effectively persecuting those who are simply different, not
like the rest of the Herd, by type-casting them as potential mass
murderers...it's been done throughout history before.

After the Columbine massacre, some administrators, on noting
that the killers had been picked on a lot, began targeting
for suspicion any students that were being picked on a lot.
For awhile there, if your classmates were making fun of you,
your teachers would be looking at you and seeing a potential
Dylan and Clebold. Not a good place to be. Between a rock
and a hard place. I'm just glad that I had graduated by then.

[Autindividual]

Post by Buzzard
After the Columbine massacre, some administrators, on noting
that the killers had been picked on a lot, began targeting
for suspicion any students that were being picked on a lot.

That's how Injustice works, it'a a pattern don't blame the bullies who
deserve the blame, but rather blame their victims. But there's an even
more disgusting pattern here, it's about Enforcing Conformity, whether by
the Thugs, the bullies of the school, or the JackBooted badge-wearing
Thugs who also target the school bullies' victims...both of which are
there to Enforce Conformity, and Naturally, they'll be looking to pick on
those who Dare to be different, to be themselves, i.e. autistic, to use
as the new scapegoats to further their Conformity Agenda.

Post by Buzzard
For awhile there, if your classmates were making fun of you,
your teachers would be looking at you and seeing a potential
Dylan and Clebold. Not a good place to be. Between a rock
and a hard place. I'm just glad that I had graduated by then.

I'd turn it around on them, Honestly explaining and proclaiming that it's
the bullies and their allies, including those who do NOT stand by and
support their intended victims, who are really helping to MAKE the next
batch of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold types.

[Autindividual]

Post by Buzzard
After the Columbine massacre, some administrators, on noting
that the killers had been picked on a lot, began targeting
for suspicion any students that were being picked on a lot.

That's how Injustice works, it'a a pattern don't blame the bullies who
deserve the blame, but rather blame their victims. But there's an even
more disgusting pattern here, it's about Enforcing Conformity, whether by
the Thugs, the bullies of the school, or the JackBooted badge-wearing
Thugs who also target the school bullies' victims...both of which are
there to Enforce Conformity, and Naturally, they'll be looking to pick on
those who Dare to be different, to be themselves, i.e. autistic, to use
as the new scapegoats to further their Conformity Agenda.

Post by Buzzard
For awhile there, if your classmates were making fun of you,
your teachers would be looking at you and seeing a potential
Dylan and Clebold. Not a good place to be. Between a rock
and a hard place. I'm just glad that I had graduated by then.

I'd turn it around on them, Honestly explaining and proclaiming that it's
the bullies and their allies, including those who do NOT stand by and
support their intended victims, who are really helping to MAKE the next
batch of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold types.

[Robert Miles]

Post by the man
Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

I think I heard on TV that he had Asperger's, which is on the autistic spectrum.

Why not fund more research? I'd like to see a BOINC project aimed at helping those on the autistic spectrum.

[toto]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:42:17 -0800 (PST), Robert Miles

Post by Robert Miles

Post by the man
Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

I think I heard on TV that he had Asperger's, which is on the autistic spectrum.
Why not fund more research? I'd like to see a BOINC project aimed at helping those on the autistic spectrum.

As far as I can tell he did not have a dx.

Many possible dxs were bandied about from Asperger's to Schizophrenia
to bipolar disorder to a psychotic break.

Another co-morbid disorder was also talked about congenital
insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis, or CIPA. According to his
science technology advisor, he could have burned himself and not felt
any pain at all.

At any rate, no matter what his mental problems were, the fact is that
it was easy access to assault rifles that led to the actual killings.
He should never have had access to his mother's guns at all, imo.

[Buzzard]

Post by toto
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:42:17 -0800 (PST), Robert Miles

Post by Robert Miles

Post by the man
Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

I think I heard on TV that he had Asperger's, which is on the autistic spectrum.
Why not fund more research? I'd like to see a BOINC project aimed at helping those on the autistic spectrum.

As far as I can tell he did not have a dx.
Many possible dxs were bandied about from Asperger's to Schizophrenia
to bipolar disorder to a psychotic break.
Another co-morbid disorder was also talked about congenital
insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis, or CIPA. According to his
science technology advisor, he could have burned himself and not felt
any pain at all.
At any rate, no matter what his mental problems were, the fact is that
it was easy access to assault rifles that led to the actual killings.
He should never have had access to his mother's guns at all, imo.

Whenever someone commits such a horrific act as this, I
always wonder what it was that led him to such a state.
In my view, you really do have to be out of your
mind to kill random people, and very nearly crazy to
murder even one.

Was the shooter abused long-term? I know that severe
long-term abuse can strip away a person's humanity,
leaving behind only an insane vicious animal in human
form. And consideringhow stressful school was for me,
with merely sub-par social skills, I can imagine what a
hellhole is must be for someone with Autism.

Of course, if he had schizophrenia, he might have been
convinced his victims were aliens from another planet.

Most of the answers I've heard on TV have been of
several cookie-cutters:
1) too many guns; he shouldn't have been armed, even if
no one knew in advance he was going bonkers.
2) too few guns; if his victims had been armed, there
would have been far fewer deaths.
3) it was the wrath of god, for not forcing organized
prayer upon public school students, or for allowing
gays in the military, or abortions.

I think more research would DEFINITELY be in order,
to identify schizophrenia earlier and treat it more
reliably; to quit ignoring people who KNOW they have
problems but can't afford help; and especially THIS:
Address the problem of wholesale abuse, including forms
of psychological abuse like bullying and gaslighting.
I suspect these problems are far more prevalent than
the public knows, because the victims are either too
afraid or too ashamed to speak out or to ask for help.
(And it does seem to me that someone with Autism would
be extremely likely to be the target of such abuse)

As long as our society continues to worship bullies as
heroes, continues to treat claw-your-way-to-the-top
aggression as the epitome of the "real man", continues
to view the targets of abuse as losers or as wussies to
be blamed for the behavior that is heaped upon them,
there will continue to be more and more insanity.

[toto]

Post by Buzzard

Post by toto
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:42:17 -0800 (PST), Robert Miles

Post by Robert Miles

Post by the man
Asperger's
Maybe time for more funding of research?

I think I heard on TV that he had Asperger's, which is on the autistic spectrum.
Why not fund more research? I'd like to see a BOINC project aimed at helping those on the autistic spectrum.

As far as I can tell he did not have a dx.
Many possible dxs were bandied about from Asperger's to Schizophrenia
to bipolar disorder to a psychotic break.
Another co-morbid disorder was also talked about congenital
insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis, or CIPA. According to his
science technology advisor, he could have burned himself and not felt
any pain at all.
At any rate, no matter what his mental problems were, the fact is that
it was easy access to assault rifles that led to the actual killings.
He should never have had access to his mother's guns at all, imo.

Whenever someone commits such a horrific act as this, I
always wonder what it was that led him to such a state.
In my view, you really do have to be out of your
mind to kill random people, and very nearly crazy to
murder even one.
Was the shooter abused long-term? I know that severe
long-term abuse can strip away a person's humanity,
leaving behind only an insane vicious animal in human
form. And consideringhow stressful school was for me,
with merely sub-par social skills, I can imagine what a
hellhole is must be for someone with Autism.
Of course, if he had schizophrenia, he might have been
convinced his victims were aliens from another planet.
Most of the answers I've heard on TV have been of
1) too many guns; he shouldn't have been armed, even if
no one knew in advance he was going bonkers.
2) too few guns; if his victims had been armed, there
would have been far fewer deaths.
3) it was the wrath of god, for not forcing organized
prayer upon public school students, or for allowing
gays in the military, or abortions.
I think more research would DEFINITELY be in order,
to identify schizophrenia earlier and treat it more
reliably; to quit ignoring people who KNOW they have
Address the problem of wholesale abuse, including forms
of psychological abuse like bullying and gaslighting.
I suspect these problems are far more prevalent than
the public knows, because the victims are either too
afraid or too ashamed to speak out or to ask for help.
(And it does seem to me that someone with Autism would
be extremely likely to be the target of such abuse)
As long as our society continues to worship bullies as
heroes, continues to treat claw-your-way-to-the-top
aggression as the epitome of the "real man", continues
to view the targets of abuse as losers or as wussies to
be blamed for the behavior that is heaped upon them,
there will continue to be more and more insanity.

There is currently speculation that he was upset because he believed
his mother was going to commit him. That certainly could explain why
he killed his mother, but I don't quite get how it explains killing
children.