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Hell is other people
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Digby
2009-02-08 21:39:33 UTC
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"It doesn’t tell us why the child agrees to cooperate in its own
socialization. Social forms, names and the rest of language, are not
imposed forcibly upon us; children are eager to learn the names of
things and to participate in the lives of those around them. They like
joining in the games we play. Learning language and learning to see
the world, including themselves, as others do is as natural as
learning to walk on two feet."

Oh yeah? Well I used to be perfectly content wandering around the
school playground, lost in my own imagination. I only started to
interact with other children when they "imposed" themselves on me.

"What do we gain from accepting our social identities, for playing the
games people play? If there is one word for this pay-off, it is
recognition. There is nothing worse for any of us than to be
invisible, to go unrecognized, to count for nothing in the eyes and
the lives of others. So to be recognized as players in the game of
social life requires us to play the games that others play, to use the
forms of exchange that are already in use. The pay-off for sociality,
in other words, is to exist, to be recognized. The need for
recognition is as basic as any of our needs; without it, we die or go
crazy."

I suppose this explains why I'm as nutty as a fruitcake then, since
I'm not dead yet.
Digby
2012-09-17 22:44:32 UTC
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Post by Digby
http://www.lclark.edu/~clayton/commentaries/hell.html
"It doesn’t tell us why the child agrees to cooperate in its own
socialization. Social forms, names and the rest of language, are not
imposed forcibly upon us; children are eager to learn the names of
things and to participate in the lives of those around them. They like
joining in the games we play. Learning language and learning to see
the world, including themselves, as others do is as natural as
learning to walk on two feet."
Oh yeah? Well I used to be perfectly content wandering around the
school playground, lost in my own imagination. I only started to
interact with other children when they "imposed" themselves on me.
"What do we gain from accepting our social identities, for playing the
games people play? If there is one word for this pay-off, it is
recognition. There is nothing worse for any of us than to be
invisible, to go unrecognized, to count for nothing in the eyes and
the lives of others. So to be recognized as players in the game of
social life requires us to play the games that others play, to use the
forms of exchange that are already in use. The pay-off for sociality,
in other words, is to exist, to be recognized. The need for
recognition is as basic as any of our needs; without it, we die or go
crazy."
I suppose this explains why I'm as nutty as a fruitcake then, since
I'm not dead yet.
Three and a half years and I am still sat here waiting for a reply!
Mouse
2012-09-17 23:14:51 UTC
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Post by Digby
Post by Digby
http://www.lclark.edu/~clayton/commentaries/hell.html
"It doesn’t tell us why the child agrees to cooperate in its own
socialization. Social forms, names and the rest of language, are not
imposed forcibly upon us; children are eager to learn the names of
things and to participate in the lives of those around them. They like
joining in the games we play. Learning language and learning to see
the world, including themselves, as others do is as natural as
learning to walk on two feet."
Oh yeah? Well I used to be perfectly content wandering around the
school playground, lost in my own imagination. I only started to
interact with other children when they "imposed" themselves on me.
"What do we gain from accepting our social identities, for playing the
games people play? If there is one word for this pay-off, it is
recognition. There is nothing worse for any of us than to be
invisible, to go unrecognized, to count for nothing in the eyes and
the lives of others. So to be recognized as players in the game of
social life requires us to play the games that others play, to use the
forms of exchange that are already in use. The pay-off for sociality,
in other words, is to exist, to be recognized. The need for
recognition is as basic as any of our needs; without it, we die or go
crazy."
I suppose this explains why I'm as nutty as a fruitcake then, since
I'm not dead yet.
Three and a half years and I am still sat here waiting for a reply!
Interesting statements that describe my own experiences too, but I don't
see a question. What kind of reply are you waiting for?
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Legal Alien
2012-09-18 08:42:49 UTC
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Post by Mouse
What kind of reply are you waiting for?
The 64.000 dollar question was ?
The need for recognition in psychology
It boils down to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs and eventually to
self-esteem or low self-esteem co-morbid with HF-autism / Aspergers

Nothing in the way we think, feel, decide and act escapes the influence
of self-esteem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-esteem#Low_self-esteem

Cheers, Legal
Digby
2012-09-18 15:21:34 UTC
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Any kind of reply. RECOGNISE MY EXISTENZ!

Thank you very much

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